The Maxis other big legacy to BLMC was a negative one its existence as a commercial under-performer probably discouraged management to develop the potentially-excellent Allegro into the five-door hatchback it so clearly deserved to be. Handling was miles ahead of most of the competition and it was mostly reliable. Happily, the Allegro enjoys something of a cult following on todays classic scene. Much better finished than the UK variety, it featured six-dial instruments, cloth trim, Rostyle wheels, opening quarterlights and many other detail improvements, selling well in Italy, Germany and France.
The vast number of Range Rovers still coming out of Solihull (and other plants) today is proof of the excellence of the original. The Austin Allegro wasnt a bad car, but it was far from good, and as such, as the replacement for the countrys best-selling car, it was a shoddy effort, and a commercial failure. An exciting new stash of videos produced by Rover Groups Marketing Department many unseen for years has been unearthed, and theyre being digitised to be made available online []. But its a car thats loved by you all in spite of itself. The waiting list for the Marina was immense - the factory couldn't make enough of them. Agree on XJ6, thuogh not oon RR: that could have gone the way P8/P9 went! The Marina suffers from derision and scoffing mostly by those who have never driven one and those who just like to knock seven bells out of BL!
The Triumph Dolomite was a classy little number that anticipated the car markets move to premium small cars decades before it happened.
The Maxi was hampered by those dowdy Landcrab side pressings. Very economical family car and a good commuter vehicle . All of the others played their part in the downfall of BLMC/BL in some significant way.
on 27 February 2017, Alan Bowler Opened up a real can of worms here Keith! To find out what you think the greatest legacy of the company is, we asked you to vote for what you think are the greatest cars produced by the company. I think it has to be the SD1, for all its flaws. My parents had a 1750 model as did our neighbours; both cars' engine mountings failed within a few months of each other causing the engine to drop alarmingly on one side which was a really basic design fault. Im sure Mercedes used S, or SEL, for their top of the range cars from 1969 onwards. 3/ the Range rover and XJ6/12 which subjectively should be romping this are a little unloved. 1/ everyone loves the SD1 (surely on looks and V8 alone) No other car, except maybe a Mercedes S class costing twice much, rode as well, could cruise silently above 100 mph, or looked as good. Amazing refinement, subtle potency and the sophistication of 12 cylinders was yours for well under half the price of an Italian V12. MG UK joins HMGs Scrappage Scheme : TF 135 to start at 11,511. As updates go the replacement of the Austin 1800/2200 by the 18/22 Series was as dramatic as replacing an antique horsehair-stuffed four-poster with a heated waterbed. I always had a soft spot for the Maxi. Very good concept gone very wrong in execution, could have been so much better with properly developed drivetrain and different (almost any other) body. I shall never forget it.
I would say the Austin Metro must be the winner for saving British Leyland from collapse, proving the corporation could finally make a best selling and decent car, and remaining a popular car right until it was cancelled in 1990.
Before company cars I also had two new Morris Montego's. Even now, its hard not to cry bitter tears of regret at this fact that this car was the end of the line for Triumph as an independent engineering and manufacturing concern. Never more than now has the non-appearance of the Triumph SD2 and ADO77 hurt so much. David Harrison Insurance tips and tricks by make and model - could you save? Today, its now an all-time classic, thanks to its rarity and cultural positioning within the era in which it lived. was I lucky?! Dire materials and assembly standards undermined a great design, regular strikes and awful quality control turning a world-beater into a sad also-ran. Restore These Cars Without Going Bankrupt, Full List of British Leyland Motor Corporation Models. They replaced it with Renault 16 TS and loved the car. There was also the triumph 2000 too. Triumph and Rover pioneered the executive car with their 2000 saloons, Triumph cementing its UK success with a clever Michelotti facelift and the apparent advance of Lucas fuel injection for its tuneful straight six. The name comes from "Mini"the car with which the Moke shares many partsand "Moke", which is an archaic dialect term for donkey. The indigestability of this merger, together with massive underfunding and nightmarish industrial unrest saw the business shrinking faster than a lake in an Australian drought.
Notwithstanding the dreadful build quality of the early cars, and the irreparable damage it the SD1 did to Rovers reputation, its probably as much to blame for BLMCs downfall as the Austin Allegro. The Ferrari Daytona inspired it, almost to the point of copying, its lightweight V8 combined with simple, well-engineered mechanicals to terrific effect. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam.
The Maxi was under-valued at the time, and is under-rated now. that is who I would vote for? A truly stunning car, that can easily keep up in modern traffic and drives as well or better than anything you can buy today. Indeed the design was so good, it lasted 23 years. Why?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, the Sprints 16-valve head was a great legacy, but it was far from perfected when it went on sale. And when the improvements came, BLMC had long since failed, and it came under the auspices of Land Rover Limited a subsidiary set-up after Sir Michael Edwardes took over the reins in 1977. on 28 February 2017. Its interesting so see how the Maxi has outperformed its mid-market bedfellows from the BLMC stable. But poor quality and the arrival of a BL axe-man saw Aussie Wheels magazines car of the year winner killed just 18 months after launch, together with the Sydney factory that built it. It cost an absolute fortune to develop, demanded a new factory in which to build it and, as a result, by the time the money started pouring in from those early sales, BLMC had long since needed a financial bail-out from the Government in the wake of the 1973 Energy Crisis. Isnt that a BMC product?
That limited sales of a stylish, well-built supermini that with that extra investment, could have filled in for the Metro that came six years later. Besides, Rover didnt have the capacity to put its engine under the bonnet of the Stag as well as all its own cars.
Oh yes, you better believe it! The SD1 can be considered as the last "true" Rover, being the final Rover-badged vehicle to be. Austin Allegro and Mini Moke are included on this poll, along with many more. Its a consistent winner on AROnline and, in many ways, is by far the best car that BL ever produced. Like the top-placed Rover SD1, the Princess was also saddled with indifferent build quality and received a pasting from the press probably the biggest missed opportunity of the lot. We love the Range Rover, but unlike the SD1 which it trails in this poll, its brilliance remains undiminished to this day. Never had a problem with either of them which included trips to Spain pulling a large trailer tent.
Very few people bought 2 Litre family cars in the late 60s early 70s.
Live with it! Our Cars : Keiths Citron GS 1500 miles on, Raise a glass to : 25 years of the Rover 600, Why indeed? This British Leyland Motor Corporation vehicle model list includes photos of British Leyland Motor Corporation vehicles along with release dates and body types of each car. This dramatically fresh executive machine outpointed the opposition on every metric bar one: quality.
Still, uniquely in this feature it is a nameplate that survives to this day. Designed by Bertone, it used Mini mechanicals and was almost identically scaled because BL couldnt afford the 1 million investment required to extend the wheelbase. Straight-six diesel engine gains 48V mild-hybrid tech for upmarket SUVs final year, A first glimpse at the new Range Rover PHEV highlights its rough edges, but with some polishing it will add a much needed string to Land Rover's bow, Land Rover's flagship SUV gains new semi-autonomous safety technology and an even plusher interior, Stretched Range Rover is as capable as its shorter sibling, but the majority of owners will no doubt be enjoying the experience from the vast space in the rear, Bigger new long-wheelbase Range Rover is as nice to be driven in as it is to drive, The new Range Rover Hybrid is claimed to average 44.1mpg and emit just 169g/km of CO2, but justifying the extra cost could prove difficult. Unfortunately its greatest asset was the thing that hamstrung it. In total, 642,350 Austin Allegros were produced during its ten-year production life, most of which were sold on the home market. (like the 1800).
Theres no option to vote for the Morris Ital! Yet for all it was very smooth and powerful, it still couldnt outperform an XJ12 for half the money, although it was far better built.
Interestingly, of the cars specifically created by BLMC for BLMCs future, beyond the SD1, its the Princess that comes out in second place, with the Austin Allegro and Morris Marina scraping into the bottom end of the Top 10 below that. The Maxi seemed to have been unloved by BL management and it looks as if no effort was made to make it sell. The accountants saw that Ford was making money with old fashioned (even pre-war side valve engines in some of them) designs like the Popular, Prefect, Anglia, Cortina etc., so thought they could do the same. on 14 August 2017.
100andthirty In "SD1", the "SD" refers to "Specialist Division" and "1" is the first car to come from the in-house design team. No barmy hydrolastic suspension, frail drive shafts and oddball wheel bearings. I really think that the Morris Ital and Austin Ambassador should be included if for no other reason that BL considered them to be replacements for the Marina and Princess. The Moke finally achieved success as a beach buggybecoming, Rover SD1 is both the code name and eventual production name given to a series of executive cars built by British Leyland, under the Rover marque. The Chevette body shell was the GM T-car shared with the Kadette, but with a unique nose. From the 1098cc (998cc later on) A-series engine to the 1748cc E-series, your Allegro could be as economical or a quick as you liked, with a vast array of trim levels to match. In fact it was a masterpiece in quick development and cost control it looked good for the day and it sold well and it was as individual as anything else (as most cars were in those day so). They soon regretted the purchase. on 14 August 2017, bobber
Well-regarded, but BL failed to develop or produce a replacement. I had the last of the 1.7 Marinas whilst owning several other cars including a 1.6 Cortina Estate and various Vivas. The type designed by a previous incarnation of BL (Range Rover, Stag) and those fully designed by BL (Allegro and Marina).
There was the outrageous 450 SEL 6.9 that had a 6.9 litre V8 and fuel consumption of 12 mpg on a good day. Perhaps this is because it was a more progressive and timeless car than the Allegro, Marina and Dolomite.
AROnline Keith Adams 2001-2022 - please refer to the 'Terms of use' pages. Like the Range Rover in second position, the Jaguar XJ actually owes very little to BLMC at all. Today, the Rover SD1 is a popular classic car. Edited by Model Flyer on 27/02/2017 at 11:01, Mike Lanc
British Leyland Motor Corporation types also have car class information available if you click on their names and go to their dedicated page. The Austin Apache was a small family car which was produced by British Leyland Motor Corporation's South African subsidiary, Leykor, between November 1971 and 1978. Wheres the P6?
Such a comfortable drive as was the 1800. Edited by Martin4148 on 28/02/2017 at 21:15, lawrence kempster Rust beetles were the biggest problems with most of these British cars and I got through a lot of fibreglass! It was and still is better looking than the contemporary Mercedes SL that it undercut, but quality always wins. To me the XJ6 and Range Rover stand out by a mile for their desirability and iconic status, especially the Range Rover. Yes, the 1256cc engine made a short appearance in the Cavalier L saloon, but I would think was underpowered. I particularly like the Chevette as it was built around Viva technology to save money, but a lot more modern looking and a better drive.
If greatness includes at least achieving what was expected/required of the car in the marketplace, then unfortunately most of these would have to be disqualified. We used to batch run Marina vans, for BT, British Gas, Electricity Board. Ive Fixed that now and added it, Not sure about the Range Rover and the XJ6. Am I blind or have you left off the Jaguar XJ6 photo. on 28 February 2017, Martin4148 Inspired by the 1970 Zanda concept car, this startling wedge of a saloon won good reviews and a long waiting list before engineering faults did for it. Often cited as the car that typifies British Leyland more than any other beautiful to behold, drive and listen to, but compromised by its unreliable engine the Triumph Stag is another car that wasnt really steered by BLMC as much of its development was completed by the time the merger happened in 1968.
4/ The maxi another car that killed the company is remarkably popular. Love the SD1 and Ive always been a fan of the Princess especially the Wolseley 18/22 version which had real class. We love it, but theres no denying that the Stag is as much a failure as any car on this list. The Chevette and the Cavalier were the big move forward for Vauxhall, even if the Cavalier was made in Belgium for the first two years of its life. Fascinating differences. Sell Your Car On Honest John Classics For Free. Id say yes and just shows how lack of development (and four door) cost this sales. It has more character with the Triumph V8 under the bonnet. There are two distinct classes of car featuring in this list. Certain types of car tend to be more popular here than on polls of more general motoring enthusiasts Replacing what had once been Britains best-selling car (the 1100/1300 series) with a model as oddball looking as the Allegro seemed a strange move, so it came as little surprise that Austins new compact saloon (and estate) failed to match its predecessors sales success. I owned a Viva HC in the mid 70s that I loved despite the cost of replacing front wings.
In 1977 it won the European Car of the Year title.
Turning an elegant, four-door saloon into a still more elegant 2+2 convertible was inspired, the substitution of the Triumph 2000s straight six for a woofling 3.0 V8 completing this delectable confection. Unlike the Maxi above, the Princess was and is a great looking car that was developed throughout its life into a near-brilliant family car. Edited by Mel Watkins on 14/08/2017 at 17:30, Edward Hughes on 14 August 2017. During that 27 years I drove the best part of 500,000 miles, including a fair amount of Continental motoring. Compare cheap car insurance from over 110 insurance providers. However, criterium is the BL-era, so form 1968 till 1986. Do I have to update my blue V5 to a red V5C? Or maybe not.
Lists that rank the best car models, manufacturers, and more. That the Rover came top should not have been a surprise. This list of car models made by British Leyland Motor Corporation is a great way to see how British Leyland Motor Corporation has evolved over the years. We even did Marina pick-ups for the USAF. Quite nippy too, for the time, esecially the twin carb models. The same vehicle was built in Italy by Innocenti between 1974 and 1975 and sold as the Innocenti Regent. So, its probably a cheek to say the Range Rover is BLMCs second-greatest car. Keith Adams Jaguar Land Rovers Joint Venture with Chery Automobile has been ratified by the, Keith Adams Regular readers are no doubt getting a real sense ofdj vu when reading, Clive Goldthorp MG Motor UK Limited (MG UK) announced yesterday that the company will be, British Motor Holdings the joining of BMC and Jaguar, Concepts and prototypes : Pininfarina BLMC 1100 Aerodynamica concept (1968), Concepts and prototypes : Pininfarina BMC 1800 Aerodynamica concept (1967), Blog : Ford Mondeo Mk4 my guilty secret. All of which could quite easily be given for relatively little expense. It was, however, everlastingly reliable I did 300,000 miles in 7 years on my 500SEC and never had a single fault except a loose nut in a window mechanism. Another promising BL model prematurely culled. What weve produced in the past two months of voting is, hopefully, the definitive Top 10 list of BLMCs greatest cars as voted by the Internets most knowledgeable experts.
Forget notions that it should have been powered by the Rover V8, though. The SD1 was marketed under various names including Rover 3500, Rover 2300 and Rover Vitesse. They were done this way, to allow A/B paint to run single colours. It looks progressive, is a fabulous all-round performer and had some very clever engineering behind it. It also won the British Touring Car Championship. Thankfully, Donald Stokes and his money men more than saw the Range Rovers potential, and ensured that the project was finished. By the way, I have never worked in the motor trade. on 27 February 2017, DJP1553 Because a year after its launch, the Volkswagen Golf showed them how its done, rendering the Allegro the product of previous generation.
I thought the montego and maestro family emanated post BLMC in fact the metro was in the same family.
Launched in 1970, it took everyone quite a while to cotton on to the Range Rovers significance.
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One of a handful of cars that kick-started the SUV craze, and one of several genuine world-beaters from British Leyland. The Austin Allegro is a small family car manufactured by British Leyland under the Austin name from 1973 until 1982. The 1968 Jaguar XJ6 was impressive enough with its sporting chassis, sumptuous comfort and subtle elegance, but the much-anticipated XJ12 was a clear contender for the best-car-in-the-world title. BL canned the Mini Cooper in 1971, but its Italian partners Innocenti continued to build Coopers until 1975, launching the 71hp Cooper 1300 in 1972. Now Audi drivers pull their seat forwar to be just that little bit closer to the car in front ! Despite that, it symbolises missed opportunities more than any other car on this list.
I guess if you sold Vauxhalls, that would have included the Cavalier MK1?
Undoubtedly, the Range Rover has to be among the vehicles listed. Discovered a moment later it was a 3 litre V8. Has anyone else noticed that some BL styling id living on in VW/Audi cars? The wildly individual (or weirdly individual) TR7 was improved by decapitation, and spectacularly so with the substitution of its Triumph slant four for a Rover V8. Yes, the Austin Maxi missed its market brief by a country mile, and sold a fraction the number of cars as the Ford Cortina, and wasnt as good to drive as its closest rival, the Renault 16 but today, its likeable and deserving of its fifth position. on 14 August 2017, Graham Boorer The range is sometimes wrongly referred to as "SDi". If nothing else, you love a V8, and youre partial to a bit of Spen King, allied with David Bache. Its 70bhp might not sound much today, but back then it qualified this car as a hot hatchback. The use of the largest Viva engine was an interesting choice, & was also used in the Cavalier. They were all good fun and I cant think of a single reason why the Cortina was better than the Marina.
One a four door saloon and then a VDP 1800 ohc estate with all the trimmings including alloy wheels..Again,no problems. But that didnt stop some interesting machines from emerging, several of them legends, before the increasingly stained British Leyland (BL) name was eliminated, in 1986. All of them were rear wheel drive and conventionally sprung they all could al be drifted and steered with the throttle to provide entertaining progress in those far off days. Also Mercedes proved to be a big rival to Jaguar in America in the seventies, as wealthy Americans who wanted something different and more powerful than emissions strangled Cadillacs and Lincolns after the oil crisis were flocking to Mercedes due to the quality that was lacking in Jaguars. And who knows, the whole enterprise might not have then collapsed into nationalisation. on 27 February 2017, cfc2000 Having started with (and learnt to drive on) an Austin A30 (bought for 30 quid back in 1963) I switched to Ford vans for 80 odd thousand miles or so, returning to BL for a Minivan and a succession of Mini saloons, an Allegro and a Maestro.
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